GEORGE RANDOLPH died 1800
AN UPDATE:
This is a follow on post to a blog I wrote in Week 15 of Amy Johnson Crow's 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks, discussing my current brickwall related to my 4x Great Grandfather, George Randolph.
It was whilst posting on a forum I use regarding birthplaces of my family and stating I was unsure where this ancestor was born, that another member kindly offerred to help. GL was based in Scotland and via herself and another anonymous lady between managed to present such evidence that I am happy to state that it is with little doubt that George Randolph who died in Lydd in 1800 is the George Randolph, son of William and Elizabeth baptised in Lydd in September 1776.
As with such discoveries one question is answered and several others then need to be investigated but it is good to be one step forward.
This is however, the various documents and the process of their discovery that helps provide the evidence of George Randolph's birth
It was recorded that George became a paid member of the Burgesses and Guild Brethren of Glasgow in 1796. from the book of the same name P199
Randolph, George, merchant, B. and G.B., by purchase 7 Jan.
GL then advised me that becoming such a member came with certain expectation, such as attending church, possibly becoming an elder. This led to researching the Scottish Presbytarian church and Lydd parish church. It was a useful exercise in discovering just what a fascinating history All Saints at Lydd has.
GL was trying to find some link to a particular parish in Glasgow, which may help. However of significant help was an anonymous helper, finding 2 records from the Register of Sasines (Scottish land registery) on familysearch.org. Short of uncovering a will, this was a significant find.
30th December 1799
Kirkaldie ? Trustees of Duguid to Randolph
Seisin George Randolph on the Resegn of Ann Kirkaldie, George Ledingham, John Lawrie and Andw Templeton Trustees of the deceased John Duguid in a dwelling house on the ? flat and a small closet on the ? of a tenement on the Eastside of Kings Street. Recorded on the 271?272 ? of said Register.
This led to an afternoon researching the life of the said John Duguid.
First I found this newspaper announcement related to John Duguid's death on the 14th Septembe 1795, resulting the termination in his partnership in the manufacturing business, Gordon, Barron and Co. of Aberdeen. Andrew Templeton is again named, here as the Factor for the Executors.
As is usual, I became involved with John Duguid and became intrigued with his life, especially since he has no genealogical link with myself.
The Scots Magazine records the Death of Mrs Helen Webster at Glasgow, Spouse of John Duguid, merchant on 12th Feb 1789.
Likewise there is a record for a Marriage on 1st Mar 1790. Mr John Duguid, merchant of Glasgow to Mrs Donald, widow of the late Mr James Donald, druggist in Edinb'
But of more interest in relation to the social history of the time was this article on 14th April 1788 in the Reading Mercury.
Counsel were called to the bar upon a Scots appeal, David Donald of Conheath, appellant and Ann Kirkaldy, widow of the said Donald and George Kirkaldy, her father, respondents. The case is rather curious as it relates to a contract of marriage between the parties, which contract had never been carried into full execution. By the laws of Scotland, a marriage, if one contracted, although not formally solemnized, yet is valid and the issue can inherit. This doctribe is founded upon the Justinian code, and is exactly the sme which was attempted to be introduced into the English laws in the reign of Henry II, when the Barons with one voice answered Nomilas mutare. Angliae leges*, and the attempt was dropped.
* we do not want the laws to be changed.
According to the Caledonian Mercury James Donald druggist died on 21st August 1785.
This therefore ties in, Ann Kirkaldy being the widow of James Donald, who married John Duguid and is the lady named in the Register of Sasines, alongside other merchants of the times.
The second Register of Sasines related to George Randolph is this:
Randolph to Randolph 11 April 1800.
Seisines Mrs Katherine Lepper alias Randolph in liferent and John Randolph infee by the Resination of George Randolph in a dwelling house on the southend of the ? flat or stort above the shops and small closet on the stairhead, in that tenement on the eastside of Kings Street recorded on the 153 154 ? of said Register.
The document above adds credence to the burial of George Randolph at Lydd on 24th February 1800.
GL and the other anonymous researcher then set about looking to see if an actual parish and church could be identified as the likely parish of George Randolph. A newspaper article in the Caledonian Mercury dated 29th Oct 1818 that the marriage between John Randolph (George's son) and William Mary Wilson was officiated by Rev. Mr Routledge.
Further research that the Rev Routledge's diocise was St Andrew by the Green in Glasgow.
This then ties in the witnesses at George's son, John's baptism, from Scotlands People,
indicating Hugh Love and John Fergus.
Both names are identified within the book Glasgow Past and Present Volume 3, alongside an article including a Mrs Chisholm. All parties are mentioned within the account of St Andrews by the Green church. Both men were merchants in Glasgow, Glasgow Trade Directories show Hugh Love having a salesroom and being an auctioneer at 13 King St.
But Hugh Love's name becomes increasingly significant when a Grave Monument Inscription identifies his wife as LUCY RANDOLPH.
Love Ancestry, Glasgow, Scotland
This afternoon, I am posting
information on Love family history as sourced from a memorial stone at St. Andrews
in the Green, Glasgow. This records the deaths of:
- Francis, daughter of Hugh Lucy Love, on March
29 1800 age 5 yrs.
- Lucy on March 14th 1801
- Thomas on March 26th 1806 age 7 yrs.
- Letitia, on May 23rd 1828 age 19 yrs.
- Hugh Lucy Love on April 28th 1829 age 73 yrs.
- May, on Sept 19th 1836 age 30 yrs.
- Lucy Randolph, mother, on June 13th 1840 age
82 yrs.
http://glasgowancestry.blogspot.com/...%20the%20Green
So now there are 3 Randolph's in Glasgow at the same time. A search of Scotlandspeople did not show any baptism's for George, Thomas or Lucy, and yet all 3 names feature in the family of William Randolph and Elizabeth Phillis, in Lydd. Their marriage was at Lydd in 1764
Kent Marriages and Banns FMP
*All the baptism's of William and Elizabeth's children are available on the freereg.org site.
Of interest is a marriage record for an Elizabeth Randolph to a Richard Sell at Lydd in November 1776
Could this be the explaination from my Australian link who states that Elizabeth Phillis had a brother, John Phillis, himself a merchant in Glasgow who took care of the children there. This would be an explaination for how they moved from Kent to Scotland.
A Death Notice in the Dover Times and Cinque Ports General Advertiser of 8th Mar 1834:
DEATHS: Feb 27, at Lydd Elizabeth Sell aged 94.
Further indicating that the widowed Elizabeth Randolph remarried.
So, whilst I have been researching many of these newly discovered people, trying to follow links in names, companies, addresses, perhaps one of the most interesting is a marriage between John Phillis, a brassfounder and Jean Chisholm, daughter of a cabinet maker, as you may recall, I was trying to establish a link with the names, Chisholm and Blizard. Whilst this marriage is too late, 1838, to relate to the use of these names within the children of John Randolph, it does indicate the name Chisholm within the circle of the Randolph family. There is very much more to be reviewed, but it now feels like, with help, quite a significant hole has been made within the George Randolph brickwall.
Many thanks to GL on the familytreeforum website, an unknown other and Marea.
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