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GEORGE ARTHUR PERRY 1851-1934: WHO ARE YOU MR P?

 GEORGE ARTHUR PERRY 1851-1934

WHO ARE YOU MR P?



As with many people, my interest in genealogy started shortly after the death of my father. He had distanced himself from his family and rarely talked about them, so I really was starting from scratch. Small recollections of him speaking of an Uncle Ted, Uncle Percy, Uncle Ernie, Uncle Les and Auntie Dorrie, helped with a few of the names, whilst he also spoke of an older Uncle in Australia. Stories of his grandparents were sparce, he recalled a man, who wore a fez and smoking jacket and recalled that he had married the 'Nanny'. And so from these few snippets, so the the journey to find out 'Who are you Mr P?' began. 


So where to begin with the story, well if I relayed the information as it was found, we would begin at the end and worked back to the mid 1870's until the brick wall was broken down when an incident occurred in 1881, which paved the way in finding the elusive early history due to a name change. The quest to find information has been helped along the way with information shared by other members of the family, to whom I am most grateful, especially J. Perry, who's earlier information set me on my way and J.M. who broke the 'wall' down. 

George Arthur Pye was born in the Atacama region of Chile in approx 1851.


A baptism record can be found on www.familysearch.org

Chile Baptisms 
Jorje Segundo Pije-Randolff 

Fathers Name Jorje Segundo Pije-Randolff 

Gender Male Christening Date 24 Mar 1851 

Christening Place Vallenar, Atacama, Chile Father's Name Jorje Pije

 Mother's Name Rosa Randolff 


His father George Pye, a surgeon and his mother Margery 'Rosella' Randolph married in 1842. Their first child Rosa del Prado Pye was baptised in 1848 in Chile, George Arthur was their only son and their youngest daughter, Beatrice was also baptised in Chile in 1854.

The reason why this couple moved to Chile can only be guessed at. There is evidence that Rosella's elder brother was in Chile at this time, he actually remained there. They would have been amongst the early settlers, the voyage taking just over a month from the UK. The Atacama region was mainly associated with mining, saltpeta and silver and the export of guano, as fertiliser. Information from Chilean people.

No other information has been found, regarding the family's life in Chile. However an addition to George Pye's father, Thomas' gravestone indicates that George Pye died in Buenos Aires in 1855, which could indicate that the family may have been on their way home to the UK, when he died.

A widowed Rosella and her children are found at 6 East Cottages, Lambeth, in the 1861 census.

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Transcription

East Cottages, 6, Lambeth, London, England  Household Members

     First        Last Relation      Marital Gen A      Birth Occupa

Birth place name(s)           name   ship     status  der ge year           tion

Margery Pye

...

Fem

Head        Widow               35 1826

ale

New Romney,

-

Kent, England

 

Rosetta ... Pye

Fem

Daughter Unmarried          12 1849

ale

Scholar South America

 

George

Pye

Arthur

Son          Unmarried Male9   1852

Scholar South America

 

Beatrice

Pye

Jane

Fem

Daughter Unmarried          6   1855

ale

Scholar South America

 

 

 

Sadly in 1863, there is a death record for Rosella Pye registered within Westminster district.

The certificate indicates that Rosella committed suicide, having taken laudenum at the home of her parents.


 Records of the inquest, were accessed by C.W. a descendant of  George Arthur Pye's sister, Rosa.

 This document indicates that Rosella appears to have experienced episodes of anxiety/depression. Verbal evidence at the inquest, indicates that a young George would contact his Grandfather at these times and Rosella and her family would stay with her parents for a few days until her mood improved. It was during one of these stays that Rosella accessed the laudanum from her fathers surgery whilst the family were out.


The 3 children were now orphaned, and as their paternal grandparents were long dead, it would appear to be reasonable to claim that Rosella's parents, John and William Mary were involved in the care of the children or perhaps amongst Rosella's siblings. Her sister Matilda and her husband Thomas Crosedil Le Neve were witnesses at George Arthur's sister, Rosa's wedding in 1866.

On 11th Nov 1865, their grandmother, William Mary Randolph also died at 55 Marsham St of an infection related to Carcinoma Mamarea (Breast cancer) of 3year duration.

In the 1871 census Rosa and Thomas Harland are found living in Tonbridge Kent, whilst Beatrice is living with multiple others in Newington and working as a milliner. Meanwhile George Arthur Pye is found at Woolwich Barracks, a bombadier in the Royal Artillery, Royal Horse Infirmary and Military Camps and Remount Establishment.



From a document found on FindmyPast,  it would appear that George Arthur's career took a downward turn and on the 7th July 1874, George was discharged from Woolwich for Ignominy, and given a V.Bad character reference. He was discharged with no pension.



Because there are some discrepancies, in that the number of  days served before discharge would not amount to what would be expected of someone who has been in the military for 3 years and to seek clarification that the George Arthur Pye, documented in the 1871 census and the George Pye discharged for Ignominy in 1874 are one and the same, with the help of a researcher further documents related to George Arthur's military career have been accessed from the National Archive. The following information can be found within the following documents.


George Arthur Pye joined the Royal Artillery at Woolwich on 3rd Jan 1870, aged 18 years 9 months. His previous occupation was a clerk.


From the Muster records it would appear that George Arthur was reported to have deserted on the 31st Mar 1871, which interestingly this indicates that he had absconded prior to the 1871 census on which he is listed. Researching regimental details it would suggest that G.A's desertion was days before a posting to India.

 

He is missing from muster reports during 1871 & 1872 and this is supported by a 2nd Batt 4th foot, Muster Record for 1873, showing the date of his desertion and his return on 25 April 1973. Comments written in remarks state that he was transferred from the R.A. (Royal Artillery) on 1st May. Re-joined from desertion. Guards room from 25th Apr to 7th May. Prison 8th May to do time




Further Muster records show him in Prison until 1st April 1874, remarks indicate he was in the Guards Rm (unable to read) 2.3 26 to 29 May. Absent 6th June apprehended 22nd Guards Rm 23 -30 June. Resulting in discharge on 7th July.



From this time, it appears that George Arthur Pye disappears, until 1881, where the link to George Arthur Perry becomes apparent.

THE EMERGENCE OF THE PERRY SURNAME

Marriage to Elizabeth Goodall nee James: The inn-keepers widow.

In 1875 Arthur Perry, a bachelor and son of George Perry, surgeon is shown to marry Elizabeth Goodall, a widow from Bishop Auckland, by license at St Margaret's Coventry




Parish of St Margaret, Coventry, Warwickshire.

Groom: ----ur Perry (from signature) age: 27 bachelor occ: Accounts clerk, address: Hereford St. father: George Perry occ D. of Medicine.

Bride: ----beth Goodall (from signature) age 39: Widow address: Bishop Auckland C. of Durham father: Robert James occ: farmer.

Both parties gave misinformation in relation to their ages, Arthur adding years, Elizabeth taking them off. Also, Robert was in fact an Ag Labourer rather than a farmer.

ELIZABETH GOODALL nee JAMES:

Elizabeth James was baptised at Charlton, Wiltshire 14 Mar 1824 the daughter of Robert (labourer) and Mary.

The next reference to her is in the 1851 census

She is working as a house servant to the Price family, farmers in Quenington Gloucs, she gives her age as 24.

In 1855 there is a marriage 15 August 1855 in Charlton nr Malmsbury Wilts.

Groom George Goodall s. of Joseph Goodall

Bride Elizabeth James. d. of Robert James

George Goodall b.1826 Quenington Gloucs an agricultural labourer

1861 census: George and Elizabeth have moved to Bishop Auckland, where George is employed as a county constable. They have a son, John b. 1856 Marske Durham.



By 1868 George had been promoted to Sergeant

Newcastle Journal 25 Jan 1868 Clever Capture:

On Thursday night, Sgt Goodall of the Bishop Auckland police, made a clever capture of a brass stealer in Bondgate, Bishop Auckland. The sergeant who is an adept as a detective had received information of a man offering some brass for sale in the town, and was on the lookout, when he saw the prisoner, a powerful looking man having the appearance of an engine cleaner, in Bondgate, and took home into custody. On being searched, several articles, of a questionable character were found on him, comprising of a brass whistle and two brass cups belonging to a locomotive engine, which he stated he had got from Durham, and afterwards that he had bought them from a lad near Newcastle. He was bought before the magistrate yesterday and remanded until Monday. In the meantime, an owner for the articles will perhaps turn up.

1871 census. George and Elizabeth are now living in The Court Inn High Bondgate, Bishop Auckland. George is recorded as Innkeeper. Both George and Elizabeth's recorded ages are 10 years younger.

George Goodall died 3 Dec 1872. His probate record 27 Mar 1873.

GEORGE GOODALL effects under £100 27 March. The Will of George Goodall late of High Bondgate, Bishop Auckland in the County of Durham, Innkeeper who died 3rd December 1872 at High Bondgate was proved at Durham by Elizabeth Goodall of High Bondgate Widow



Elizabeth Perry died in 1877.












Date and Place: 18 Feb 1877 Station View Bishop Auckland

Name Elizabeth Perry female

Age: 42 (in fact she was 53)

Occ: Wife of Arthur Perry, solicitors’ clerk

Cause of Death: Fatty liver, certified by V Hutchinson MD

Informant: X mark of Eliza Evans Present at death. Station View Bishop

Auckland

Registration date: 23 Feb 1877


Newspaper reports regarding a dispute between Arthur Perry and Elizabeth and George Goodall’s son, John, indicate Arthur's whereabouts over the next couple of years and although there are some discrepancies in dates and information these and further court cases all appear to relate to the period post Elizabeth's death.

Northern Echo 17th Oct 1877 



In 1878 the following articles featured in the local papers

Northern Echo 25 Mar 1878

Durham Assizes:- Percy (Perry) v Goodall and Another.






































































Mr Digby Seymour QC and Mr Leys were for the plaintiff and Mr Herschell QC and Mr Bruce for the defendant. The statement of claim was that the defendant broke into and entered the house of plaintiff and carried away for the purpose of their own use, certain goods and 12 £5 Bank of England notes, belonging to the plaintiff; and the defendants denied that these were the property of the plaintiff, and they had leave of the plaintiff to enter the house. A counter claim was advanced from the defendant for a gold watch and chain which the plaintiff had converted to his own use, and for the goodwill of the house. From the evidence it appeared that the plaintiff, who was a solicitor’s clerk at Bishop Auckland, married the widow of the late Mr Goodall, who was the owner of the Crown Inn. Bishop Auckland. Mrs Goodall had the life interest in the property, after which it was to go to her son John Goodall, one of the defendants. After living in the public house a short time, the plaintiff retired to private life, and in February 1876*, his wife died. On the 24 February, while the plaintiff was at his business, the defendants entered the house and carried off a large quantity of furniture and also, about £60 in bank notes, besides several receipts, invoices, letters &c. After a lengthy discussion it was agreed to refer the case to arbitration, Mr Watson of Barnard Castle, being agreed upon by both sides.

* Elizabeth Perry nee Goodall in fact died Feb 1877.

Newcastle Journal 29 Mar 1878

Before Baron Pollack

Perry v Goodall & Another

The plaintiff, Perry, was a solicitors clerk at Bishop Auckland and in December 1875 he married the widow of a Mr Goodall, who was the owner of the Court Inn, Bishop Auckland at the will of her late husband. She had by that will, a life interest in the estate and property, after which her son, John Goodall, one of the defendants, was heir. There was no doubt a disparity in years between the plaintiff and his wife as she was about 10 or 12 years older than her was (*in fact she was 27 years older!), but it appeared she was to his taste and he to hers and they lived happily together. At the time Mrs Goodall married the defendants were both minors, being 16 or 17 years of age. After living in the public house a short time, the plaintiff retired into private life. To the furniture, which they had when the plaintiff had Mrs Goodall, a great deal had been added. In Feb 1876 , the plaintiff's wife died, and for some time after the plaintif and defendants continued to live on friendly terms. On the 21st February the plaintiff went to his place of business as usual and after being there for a short time he was informed that strange proceedings were going on in his house. The plaintiff immediately went home and found the defendants carrying away furniture and everything helter-skelter. In fact they took everything and did not leave the plaintiff even a bed or a chair. The plaintiff remonstrated with them and told them that the things were his, but they took no heed of him. In addition to taking these away they broke open a box and took out £60 in banknotes, receipts and invoices and also letters that had passed between the plaintiff and his late wife. There was a counter claim by the defendants for the amount of the goodwill of the house which had belonged to their father. After some further discussion it was agreed to refer the case to arbitration and counsel assented to Mr William Watson, of Barnard Castle, acting in that capacity.

Interestingly at the same time as this incident is happening.

 

14 Aug 1879 Northern Echo

One of a soldiers Privileges

George Chilton, Darlington, sued Sergeant Major Fox of Bishop Auckland, for the sum of £24 10sh due on a promissory note. The amount had been lent to an accountant named Perry, and Fox stood surety. Mr Clayhills was for the plaintiff and Mr Edwd Wooler for the defendant. The latter said that he had told Chilton he was on the permanent staff. He concealed nothing, but he was sorry he had ever put his foot in it. Mr Clayhills remarked that it was sufficient he put his hand to it. Laughing, the defendant said that Chilton was so anxious to have the job done, he did not care who signed. On the advice of his solicitor the plaintiff consented to be non-suited and to pay costs.

25 Oct 1879 Northern Echo

A Money lending transaction.

Yesterday a special sitting of the Darlington court was held before Mr E R

Turner, judge. There was no little interest manifested in the proceedings. One of the cases before the court came up on adjournment, that of Chilton v Fox & Perry. The plaintiff George Chilton, a money lender sued Sergeant Major Fox, Bishop Auckland and Arthur Perry, accountant Durham and his wife, for £24 and 10sh interest. Mr Clayhills was for the plaintiff and Mr Edwd Wooler for the defendants. It appeared that the plaintiff had obtained the signatures of Perry and his wife jointly to the note, and that Fox was the surety in the case of the loan. The defendant, Perry sold his furniture in the market place Durham. He expected a further loan and placed a number of shares in an Insurance office in the hands of the plaintiff. The judge ruled that the securities ought to have been given up to the surety and therefore only gave costs against the defendant Fox and while he found a verdict against Perry with costs.

 

Meanwhile in the same year as his wife's death George Arthur's last remining grandparent, John Randolph, the surgeon also died. Although he was at this time living with his second wife, his ex-maid Mary Ann Stanley, in Bessborough Gdns, a crescent of Georgian properties in Pimlico. His will, named his wife as sole beneficiary indicates that the property was rented and that his total worth was less than £1000.

Information then goes quiet again, although there are possible links to further newspaper reports, relating to an Arthur Perry, accountant, being late in payment to the court on behalf of another and also possible links to charitable causes in the Stockton area.

Marriage to Jessie Pope

It may have been through those latter links that George Arthur met Jessie Pope, a maid in the household of the Vicar of Mickley. For a detailed biography of the Pope family, I suggest this link.

http://www.melville-connections.co.uk/webpages/john_pope_mystery.html Both myself, under my married family name and John Perry have been in contact with the author, there do remain some discrepancies in relation to George Arthur within the article.

 

John Perry's grandfather also wrote of his memories of his mother’s relations and visiting them in Wick.

George Arthur Perry and Jessie Pope married at the John Knox Presbyterian church Newcastle on 3rd Jan 1881.



Groom: George Arthur Parry age28 yrs widower occ: accountant address: Westmoreland Terrace, Newcastle. Father George Perry deceased occ surgeon

Bride: Jessie Pope age 24 spinster address Montpelier Terrace, Sunderland. Father: John Pope, deceased occ. blacksmith.

JESSIE JANET POPE: 1856 -1891. Daughter of John Pope a blacksmith and Ann Sutherland, in Caithness, Scotland. Whilst on a visit to London to look for a property for himself and Jessie to live, George Arthur bigamously marries Ann Maria Huggins nee Fuller, b. 1833, the widow of John Huggins, a publican. This marriage took place at Islington on 28th Feb 1881 under the assumed name George Arthur Anderson. 

Bigamous marriage to Ann Maria Huggins nee Fuller: Inn-keepers widow



Groom: George Arthur Anderson, widower, Accountant of this parish, son of George Anderson Doctor of Medicine.

Bride: Ann Maria Huggins, widow, daughter of Richard Fuller, confectioner.

This of course in itself is not proof that these 2 men are one and the same until you read newspaper reports of the court case.

News report transcript

Reynolds Newspaper (London England) Sunday October 16th, 1881 Issue 1627

Via GALE

Bow Street

Singular Bigamy George Pye age 23 describing himself as a commissioning agent, living at 11 Burleigh St, Strand was charged in front of Mr Flowers with having committed bigamy. Mr Mark Thompson prosecuted, and Mr Knight defended. The defendant was married to Annie Marie Huggins in the name of George Arthur Anderson at St Clements parish church, Barnsbury on the 28th Feb last. They cohabited together and the prisoner had obtained a gold watch, value £20 from her. It transpired that he had been previously married to Jessie Pope, but he informed the proscutrix that he had married Jessie Pope in an assumed name. The certificate of the marriage with that person was at Newcastle upon Tyne on Jan 3rd, 1881 was produced and one of the witnesses to the marriage was called in support of the case and through cross examination by Mr Knight stated that he identified the prisoner through having met him often in church and at Bible class.  The prisoners Aunt was called to show that Jessie Pope was at her house the day previous to when the prisoner was arrested by Sergeant Partridge. She was however not in court to give evidence. When arrested the defendant said that he had married them both under an assumed name and that Jessie ‘had forgiven him.’ And suggested he was not quite right in the mind when he had contracted the marriages which had placed him in the position he found himself now. Mr Flowers committed him for trial. 

This report from Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette 21 Oct 1881


Ann Marie Huggins nee Fuller:  1883-1885 was the daughter of a confectioner and originated from Norfolk. She married John Huggins in 1859 and they had one son, John. An earlier newspaper report indicates that she probably was not a lady to be trifled with.


This information may help explain why Jessie was found within the 1881 census working as a maid in the household of the vicar of Mickley cited as single. However as yet I have been unable to identify Arthur within this census.

George Arthur Pye was tried at the Old Bailey and committed to 2 months hard labour at Coldbath Fields Prison.

“As he went through Coldbath Fields he saw
A solitary cell;
And the Devil was pleased, for it gave him a hint
For improving his prisons in hell.”    

 British History on line

As the newspaper reports suggest, Jessie must have forgiven George Arthur, for the next documentation is that of the birth of their son John Arthur Perry on 20th Nov 1882 at Carson House, West Dulwich. From this time Jessie appears to have been a steadying influence on her husband.


Family life is well documented from John's perspective in his journal; 'By Devious Paths.' He talks of his parents work within the Salvation Army and the middle class life he was born into. Unfortunately Jessie developed tuberculosis and was sent to Bournemouth sanitorium in 1889, but when it was evident that the problem was now terminal, Jessie returned to the family home, The Vinery in Townsend Rd, St Johns Wood. Arthur sought a private nurse and Edith Youell, the daughter of a carpenter, was employed. Jessie died on 12 Mar 1891 and a somewhat melodramatic account was written by her nurse, Edith, regarding the event and she is shown to have been witness to Jessie's passing.

 
"She desired to lay upon the couch and with her dear husband's hand and by her conversation made it known to him that she was near the gates of heaven as follows:- 1-1 2-2 3-3 4-4 which was immediately repeated by her and immediately answering 4, she said 'Open the door. Let me in.' and with a sigh said 'Arthur, Satan tempts you to the last.' but then with a smile she said, I enter in the name of Jesus, through his blood, I see it is the blood.' She afterwards, for a few minutes appeared in a slumber and opening her eyes uplifted to heaven, said 'It is finished. Praise the Lord.' When the spirit of our dear sister took it's departure into the Haven of Rest, to be with the Lord'

Extract from 'My Mother's relations' - family document. Notes from her Nurse E. Youell

Jessie Perry age 34. Wife of Arthur Perry, Parish Inspector of Nuisances. Cause of death Pthisis 3 or 4 years
certified by W Gristock MD. E. Youell present at death 45 Townshend Rd Marylebone

Again, John A Perry's account of his younger years provide some insight in what happened after his mother's death from his perspective, but documentary evidence would indicate that within a few months of Jessie's death, Arthur and Edith were in a relationship. It is interesting at this time, to recall the remarriage of his grandfather John Randolph to his maid in Arthur's youth. Arthur and Edith were married by licence at Clacton on 14th Sept 1891 by licence.


Marriage to Edith Youell


at Wesleyan Chapel Clacton on Sea by licence

14 Sept 1891

Arthur Perry 37 widower Sanitary Inspector residing in Clacton on Sea father:

George Perry Surgeon


Edith Annie Youell 25 spinster residing Clacton on Sea father Edward Youell

From John Arthur's account, Arthur continued to live in St Johns Wood whilst he, John, and his 'Nanny' now stepmother lived in lodgings in Ipswich. On 13th Mar 1892, 1 year and 1 day after Jessie's death, Dorothy Annie Perry was born.





13 Mar 1892 10 Providence St Ipswich USD 

Dorothy Annie girl father Arthur Perry, Sanitary Inspector, mother Edith Annie Perry formerly Youell, 45 Townshend Rd St John's Wood Marylebone. Registered 22 April 1892.

By the 1901 census two sons had also been born, Edward Paul 2 Jun 1893 & Percival David 20 April 1896.

Again, John Arthur's journal concurs with the census in that the Perry family were now residing at The Laurels in Fingringhoe, Essex.  An addition to the family was Edith's sister, Alice Jane Youell, who died there in Aug 1902 of TB.

born.


Maurice Frederick 25 Jun 1901 and Ernest Cecil 6 Jul 1905 were both born in Fingringhoe and further evidence of them living there are 2 newspaper advertisements.

ESSEX NEWSMAN Sat 19 Sept 1903

Houses and Land to let For Sale

Nr Wyvenhoe Station G E Ry COUNTRY RESIDENCE Extensive views Half of newly erected detached property with use of grounds. Low rental to Nonconformist willing to assist in Mission Work, Address Perry Laurels Fingringhoe Essex.

ESSEX NEWSMAN Sat 18 Aug 1906

ESSEX To Let Bungalow adjoining Mission Hall. Five or Six rooms together with half an acre of garden. Low rental or agreement: references: apply Mrs Perry The Bungalow Fingringhoe near Colchester Es

Whilst the family continued to live in Fingringhoe, Arthur continued to work as a sanitary inspector for Paddington Borough Council. In 1904 he, Andrews and Yeo were appointed by parliament to act as Inspectors for Meat Nuisances.  In 1908 Arthur retired from his post with Paddington borough council, from his resignation letter there appears that there may have been some acrimony in relation to this.

By the 1911 census the family had moved to 'Kelso' London Rd, Wembley, from there moving around various addresses including Greenford and Cudham. Arthur and Edith's family were completed in 1913 when they informally adopted Dorothy's illegitimate son Leslie Mark, bringing him up as their own.



George Arthur Perry died on Jan 28th 1935 at Warkworth House, Twickenham of Myocarditis and Senility.



This blog is the result of many years research and numerous collaborations with family members and family history forums. Is this the end of George/Arthur's story? I'm not sure, part of me feels that there may be another marriage somewhere, possibly during his military years, What was he doing at that time? Where was he? These are questions that are unlikely to be answered, but could this be a reason for the name change.

His adult life appears to have been a battle between drink and religion. Early on in my research, and knowing that my Grandparent's era had all been members of the Salvation Army, I wondered if George Arthur had been one of the early members that were often middle class males, with a history of alcohol problems. Looking at events in his childhood some of these 'failings' could be explained with so much loss in his youth.

As for religion, Jessie was a captain within the Salvation Army and whilst the family remained associated with the S.A, his eldest son John Arthur alludes in his journal of his father's attempts to establish his own church, although indications are that this was unsuccessful.

I realise I am incredibly fortunate in being able to find so much about this man especially as I had absolutely nothing at the start. One of the first items that was shared with me, was the photo of the family that appears at the start of this blog. It was initially shared by P.F, but since then other members of the family have also shared it with me. It was taken in the early 30's and I wonder if Dad's memory was either the photo or the day. He is one of the children shown. This end portrait is one shared with me by S.S, custodian of many family photo's. I have chosen this one as I can see a resemblance to both myself and my father - I think it may be the eyes and forehead.

As the recipient of so much shared by various members of the family I am mindful that this information is not necessarily mine to share with those outside the family. I hope though, that with this blog I have managed to maintain a balance of my own research and the help I have had shared with me and is of interest to others and perhaps inspires and shows what may/can be possible.


  

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